REPOD S6E6: Nutcracker in Swing Time—Kellian & Brian Pletcher, Creators of Club Drosselmeyer

“It’s an interactive Nutcracker in swing time.” In REPOD season 6, episode 6, we go behind the scenes with the creators of Club Drosselmeyer, Kellian and Brian Pletcher. Club Drosselmeyer is a World War II-themed mass-puzzling, swing-dancing, and immersive performance event, and it’s one of Room Escape Artist’s favorite holiday events. 

hero image for REPOD season 6, ep. 6. background image is of a swing band on stage with red velvet curtains. there's palm trees and revelers. There is a black and white image of a woman on the telephone, and of a man in a tuxedo and top hat. The title says "Creators of Club Drosselmeyer: Kellian & Brian Pletcher"

Kellian talks to us about what to expect from Club Drosselmeyer, the format of the show, and how the puzzles work. She talks about drawing inspiration from history as well as current events and tells us why it’s important to throw in a dash of whimsy and weirdness (like robots in 1940.) We also chat about how to approach large-scale, open-world immersive events without getting overwhelmed. 

If you’re looking for a fabulous holiday event with mysteries to unravel, puzzles to solve, gorgeous outfits, raucous performances, and a lively dance floor, look no further than Club Drosselmeyer. David and Lisa love it so much that they created Operation Nutcracker, a Room Escape Artist event built around this show.

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Topics Discussed in this Episode

  • [6:22] Kellian says that in addition to attending puzzle events with Brian, she got her start in immersive as an educator working with museums to create scavenger hunts.
  • [9:18] Kellian talks about telling stories rooted in history, but with a whimsical twist. 
  • [12:27] We discuss how Club Drosselmeyer works. It is an interactive swing party with a puzzle and game layer. 
  • [16:28] Kellian talks about how she wanted Club Drosselmeyer to appeal to several communities, including swing dancers and puzzlers.
  • [18:07] David talks about how he and his wife Lisa got into swing dancing.
  • [20:34] Kellian talks about a tradition in the dance community called the snowball dance.
  • [22:15] Peih-Gee talks about being a backup dancer for Janet Jackson and Madonna in her twenties.
  • [24:27] Kellian and Brian talk about their inspiration for creating Club Drosselmeyer.
  • [26:12] Kellian talks about how the storyline of the event changes every year with scenes that reflect relevant modern themes.
  • [32:35] Peih-Gee talks about how these open world events can feel overwhelming and offers tips for navigating them.
  • [33:36] David offers his advice, including how to dress the part.
  • [35:20] Kellian tells us about the types of puzzles and interactions to expect.
  • [38:36] Kellian talks about how many people it takes to run Club Drosselmeyer.
  • [46:00] Kellian talks about how current events and the state of the world influence her as a creator.
  • [50:32] Kellian tells us some important game design lessons that she teaches her students.
  • [51:49] Brian tells us about the Nob Yoshigahara Puzzle Design Competition, an annual award and competition in the engineering and design of mechanical puzzles.
  • [54:30] Kellian talks about her Beginner Chinese Lesson video on YouTube that has over 3.3 million views.
  • [56:22] We talk about the nuts and bolts for Club Drosselmeyer and Operation Nutcracker, including dates and times and what the ticket includes.
  • [1:01:35] Kellian tells us a bonus story about the time the ending for Club Drosselmeyer didn’t go quite as planned.

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About Kellian Pletcher

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Kellian is the founder of Green Door Labs and also the Director of G.L.A.M. (Galleries, Libraries, Archives, and Museums) at Boston’s FableVision Studios.

As a producer, director, writer and game designer, Kellian’s immersive theater productions include Save the Munbax, the American Society for the Protection of Magical Creatures, The Night Cafe and 8 iterations of Club Drosselmeyer.

Kellian has built over 150 games at museums and cultural spaces focusing on physical/ digital interactive experiences in public places. such as Murder at the Met at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Mystery of the Megatherium Club at the Smithsonian or AVATAR at the Peabody Essex Museum. In 2023, she spearheaded a museum-game prototype initiative called Project AMI with a collaboration of museums in Switzerland (

Kellian is a former middle school teacher, former adjunct professor at Northeastern and Emerson, a board member of the Playable Theater Project, avid swing dancer and lifelong vegetarian. She likes tater tots and peas.

About Brian Pletcher

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Brian Pletcher is a co-producer for Club Drosselmeyer, a yearly immersive 1940’s Nutcracker event in Boston. He has played over 150 escape rooms across 11 countries since 2014, and is a judge for the Nob Yoshigahara Puzzle Design Competition.

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